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Richard Heart and Ozzy the BS filter talk Bitcoin, ICO's, North Korea
Sep 17, 2017
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with what's hot right now China all
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right now I wasn't too surprised due to
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the history of China with manipulating
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its currency like to benefit them and
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how how was your reaction to what did
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you expect did you not expect it well
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China is an interesting place because
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it's not really a democracy it's not
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really a free society they perform a lot
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of censorship they have maybe 12 movies
01:08
a year from the West that make it
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through the sensors that can be seen and
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so there's this language and geographic
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divide between the Chinese culture and
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the rest of the world and it's very hard
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to bridge so if you ever try and do
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commerce in China you discover that they
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don't speak English even the people that
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are supposed to so it's very hard to do
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commerce there and it's very hard to
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influence them because you know they're
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not on the same chat channels you're on
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they're not on reddit they're not in
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discord they're not on Twitter if they
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were they wouldn't understand what you
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were typing and all of those frictional
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costs and barriers of not being able to
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communicate and educate makes the place
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less efficient it's you know there's a
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reason that they're not at the forefront
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of everything they're really not at the
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forefront of much and they could be
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because they have a lot of smart people
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there and they have tons and tons of
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just raw human count they have at least
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three times a population the United
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States
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so they run their government different
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over there you know in the United States
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they would they would issue a letter and
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people would read it and it would go
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through legal and then they would act on
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it because no one in the United States
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is gonna shut down their business early
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based on a rumor or you know no not you
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right absolutely not
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so in America you know you'll shut down
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when you have to but in China people
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shut down first and quickly to try and
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gain the favor of the people in charge
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and so if you look at what happened in
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the recent exchange regulation issue in
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China the people that didn't play along
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with
ico
s
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and were considered favorable got to
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stay open longer and the people that did
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play with
ico
s and we're considered not
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as nice and happy and friendly to the
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regulator's they got shut down so when
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you live in an environment where your
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company needs to make decisions based on
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the happiness of regulators not what
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they've written but their emotional
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feelings towards you it's a very
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different game so you know China has
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played the we're gonna ban bit card card
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for five years six years they've been
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banning bitcoins since 2012-2013
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but the bans never really happened so
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they they fake pump fake foot pump fake
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fear uncertainty doubt
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pump fake Fudd and you know finally
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they've advanced their their pump faking
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inside to some actual regulations some
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of which are good for Bitcoin and some
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of which are short to mid-term bad but
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long-term good so they made I see as
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illegal and I cos are a cancer upon the
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crypto community they are a bunch of bad
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teams with no track history doing things
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which shouldn't be built which is the
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reason they don't have competitors in
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the real world because no one was stupid
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enough to waste their time trying to
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build most of those things then they get
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over funded with no check marks and no
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you know no metrics that have to be hit
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and you know the best case is the
ICO
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fails and everyone gets their money
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returned worst case is that everyone
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over funds the thing and then it fails
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slowly over time convincing more and
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more people to put money into a terrible
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idea so I see us for the most part our
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where money is shifted from the people
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who come in last to the people who came
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in first and so it's just an advanced an
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advanced lottery ticket that wastes a
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lot of people's consciousness through
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mind space so you'll have this
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conversation as wasting our time right
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now advertisements they buy or wasting
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our visual time developers will be
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sucked into their ecosystem for short
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periods of time until they're fired when
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the project fails and they so China did
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good
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to ban ICS in their current form where
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they're all terrible and all that
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liquidity that would have gone into i ce
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o--'s will now go into something that
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they didn't ban like bitcoin so the
ico
05:20
ban frees up developers to do smarter
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things frees up advertisements to go to
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smarter projects and frees up investor
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capital to go to currencies which are
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more secure and aren't stealing the
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money from the people at the end and
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giving it to the people at the beginning
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because there's no failure right like
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bitcoin cannot fail in the way that
ICO
05:42
is fail i ce o--'s never get to market
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and then they just disappear bitcoin is
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the market it can't fail there's no
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there's no like there's no market
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adoption like failure case for it like
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we're at the very or the very beginning
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like only 300,000 people have Bitcoin
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wallets there's less than 5 million
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wallets and contain more than $1 in them
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you can't spend this stuff anywhere
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we're at the super duper duper very very
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beginning of this currency replacement
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of the new digital peer-to-peer
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censorship resistant currency of the
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people overcoming the government control
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of men I mean if the government controls
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the currency then the government
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controls how much work you have to do
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right like it's a huge huge huge deal
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and because the capital class controls
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the guy
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and prefers to have boom-and-bust cycle
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because the booms help them more than
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they help the little guy and the bus
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don't hurt them as much they're still
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eating caviar right so artificially low
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interest rates from fiat currencies
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creates a boom and bust cycles which
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harm humans because humans have a
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Keynesian ratcheting intelligence where
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we're ok with raises but we're really
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not ok with pay cuts and we're okay with
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things getting better but we're really
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not ok with things getting worse and so
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it's better to stop the boom-and-bust
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cycle and smooth things out by having
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more realistic interest rates you may
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have slightly slower GDP growth but
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you'll have much happier human beings
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that aren't being ground up by the
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meat-grinder of a couple extra percent
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of gdp growth but some people have to
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get entirely annihilated you know the
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United States we don't do paid vacation
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very often we don't do paid pregnancy
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leave very often we don't do vacations
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very often at all but when you look at
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the rest of the world they do a lot of
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that and that makes America more
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powerful and stronger as a group but
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individually it destroys the individuals
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so the individuals have worse lives but
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the system overall is more powerful so
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you could say maybe a couple generations
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down the row down the way that'll
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that'll pay off but in the meantime it's
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really bad for the small people anyway
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in summary in China China banning I see
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is good for Bitcoin China banning
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currency exchanges not good for Bitcoin
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short and midterm however long term
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they're not keeping this they're going
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to enact real regulations and then we'll
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have more of a flourishing just like in
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the United States in the United States
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it was very very hard for Bitcoin
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companies to get bank accounts because
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there was regulatory uncertainty and no
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large bank would want to risk their
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relationship with their upstream in
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order to put on one single Bitcoin
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company and so no one could get bank
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accounts then everyone bitched and
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moaned and cried about how bad the New
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York regulation was but they were all
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wrong and they were all stupid because
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in New York regulation allowed
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onboarding of millions upon millions
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upon millions of people into the Bitcoin
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ecosystem through coinbase because
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coinbase could get a bank account
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absolutely now that's how I got it
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right so short short term and midterm
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coinbase is vital and amazing as are all
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of the other introduction points and
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onboarding locations that get you into
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the Bitcoin ecosystem long term those
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things die and we go to a purely
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peer-to-peer middleman free distributed
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we don't need the central points of
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failure so short and midterm coin based
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exchanges are excellent we need them but
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long term they go out of business and
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peer to peer decentralized everything
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replaces them but there are very
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important stepping stone so you know
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China's short term and midterm result
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with banning of exchanges slows it down
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however it kind of amplifies some
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advantages that Bitcoin has so bitcoins
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the only guys that have satellites and
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open dime where you can transfer coins
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in person hand-to-hand like a memory
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stick but it's encrypted so you can't
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double spend the coins like if you give
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it to someone they really have it we
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also have you can send transactions by
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SMS so the banning and the the problems
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that cryptocurrencies are going to have
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in China Bitcoin is going to have the
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least because we have the most advanced
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architecture and the smartest guys
10:00
working on it and the highest adoption
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so all that
ICO
money and all of that
10:04
exchange banned money is still going to
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be coming into Bitcoin but just through
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all the side channels and you know
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peer-to-peer training because
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peer-to-peer training is not being
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currency is not beyond so it's going to
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